I’m excited to share today’s interview with you. Before I get started, I had a question from Meredith that I’d like to share with you and answer. Meredith says her teenage daughter has acne and her question is: “How do I know what is really causing my daughter’s acne. Is it her diet or the skincare products she’s using or is it something else?”
After answering this question, I’m introducing you to today’s guest Dr. Carri Drzyzga.
Dr. Carri is a chiropractor and naturopathic doctor, host of the popular podcast “The Functional Medicine Radio Show”, and author of the book Reclaim Your Energy and Feel Normal Again! Fixing the Root Cause of Your Fatigue with Natural Treatments. Dr. Carri is creator of Entrepreneurial Fatigue: How to Fuel Your Brain & Body for Entrepreneurial Success. She has been in private practice since 1996, and is founder of Functional Medicine Ontario in Ottawa, Ontario.
In today’s interview, we discuss the most common causes of fatigue and how to fix it without getting more sleep. And, interestingly, many of these are the same as the causes of common skin problems.
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|Trevor:||Hi there. I’m Dr. Trevor Cates. Welcome to the Spa Doctor Podcast. I’m excited to share with you today’s interview, but before I get started, I had a question from one of you that I wanted to answer. This is from Meredith. Meredith says that her teenage daughter has acne. Her question is, “How do I know what is really causing my daughter’s acne?” Is it her diet, or the skin care products she’s using, or is it something else?” That’s a great question, Meredith. Really the answer is acne is probably triggered by both her diet and her skin care, but that might not be the root cause. That’s what the important thing is here. You want to find out what the root cause of her acne is, and you want to address that. My guest today is going to talk a lot about underlying causes, about these root causes of health concerns, and even shares her own story about having acne. I think today’s podcast will really help you. One of the biggest root causes for skin issues, including acne, lies within the digestive tract. A lot of times we need to address those issues within the gut in order to have that clear, glowing skin that we want to have. Keep that in mind as you watch this interview today.|
|My guest today is Dr. Carri Drzyzga. Dr. Carrie is a chiropractor and naturopathic doctor, host of a popular podcast, “The Functional Medicine Radio Show,” and author of the book “Reclaim Your Energy and Feel Normal Again: Fixing the Root Cause of Your Fatigue with Natural Treatments.” Dr. Carri is also the creator of Entrepreneurial Fatigue: How to Fuel Your Brain and Body for Entrepreneurial Success. She has been in private practice since 1996 and is founder of Functional Medicine Ontario. In today’s interview, we discussed the most important causes, most common causes, and most important causes of fatigue. Really what’s interesting about this is that many of these root causes, many of these causes are similar or the same as common skin problems. Please enjoy this interview today.|
|Trevor:||Dr. Carri Drzyzga, it’s so great to have you on my show today.|
|Carri:||Hi, Dr. Trevor. It’s so nice to be here. Finally we’re like, switching the tables. You’re interviewing me today because I interviewed you not that long ago|
|Trevor:||Yeah, it’s great. It’s so fun to be able to do that, to be able to share each other’s information with our audiences. I want you to start off with your story, because I understand you have an interesting story. Let’s start with that.|
|Carri:||Okay. I know a lot of your audience, they have a great passion for skin health. If we go back in time, I used to have really terrible acne, started at about 16 years old, and going into chiropractic school only made it that much worse. Then going into private practice, still, it got that much worse, so I was, I’d say in my mid-twenties when I finally decided enough is enough. I was treated as a typical acne patient would with topical antibiotics, topical retinoid creams, or internal antibiotics. Of course, that stuff works, but it’s really just a temporary fix. Then really I had enough at one point, and I said, “This is enough. I’m going to try accutane.” To be quite honest, the week I started accutane, I developed psoriasis all over my body. My face, my neck, my hands. I felt like a freak going in to see my patients because I’m like, “They can totally see it.”|
|It wasn’t until I saw a doctor here in Ottawa that practices functional medicine. He was like, “Okay, let’s get to the root cause of this.” We found that I had parasites in my gut, like really bad gut imbalance. I had to do a lot of detox, of course. I did change my diet completely and as you know, diet is really your first medicine. It can be your poison or it can be your medicine. I did all these things and finally, my skin completely cleared up and actually, Trevor, when patients come in and I tell them this story, they look at me and they look kind of puzzled. They’re like, “My gosh, Dr. Carri. You have such beautiful skin.” I tell them it wasn’t always that way. Patients who come in with skin issues, I really feel for them because I know what that’s like personally.|
|Trevor:||Thank you so much for sharing that. I completely hear you. I had the same thing with me. I had a lot of skin issues when I was younger. It was more eczema and allergic kinds of issues with my skin, but I completely understand. People say to me, “Oh, well what do you know about skin issues? You’ve got great skin?” I’m like, “Well, I’ve worked hard to get there.” I completely hear you. A lot of what you’re talking about is addressing the root cause of skin issues and you do that with other things in your practice because you’ve gone in to do a lot with functional medicine and you have a book and another one coming out. Tell us what you’re up to now.|
|Carri:||What I’m up to now, and thanks for asking. My first book that came out is called “Reclaim Your Energy and Feel Normal Again” and that was kind of a personal, also a personal story there too. I was 15 years into chiropractic practice and decided “I’m going to go back to school.” I’m going to go back to school, become a naturopathic doctor so I can really practice functional medicine to the full scope and breadth that I want to. I had such a busy schedule, Trevor. I was in class 30 hours a week, morning, afternoons and evening classes plus all the studying, exams, writing papers, and I was flying back and forth from Chicago to Canada to still see my patients in my private practice. It was an insane schedule and I think back and I think how did I even do it? Sometimes you have a goal and you just have to go for it.|
|It was about 6 months into that craziness that my energy started to tank. I knew it was just stress and it was a short-term, 2-year commitment to reach this goal of mine, and I just thought, “Okay, I just have to suck it up, get through it.” I figure, “Well, once I graduate, pass my board exams, then I’ll be able to sit back, take some time, recharge my batteries, and everything will be back to normal.” Except that actually didn’t happen. I was like, getting 10 hours of sleep every night and taking a 2-hour nap every day and I was still really fatigued. It kind of felt also like my brain never, I put a lot of stress and strain into my brain and it never really quite recovered from that 2 years of stress, either.|
|I talk about that in my fatigue book and I actually then broke the cardinal rule of being a doctor and a patient that we doctors were not supposed to treat ourselves, because we cannot be unbiased, but I broke that rule and I decided to treat myself with functional medicine to get to the root cause of where my fatigue was coming from, and so that’s kind of what I talk about in the book. A lot of what I talk about in the book actually does correlate with a lot of skin problems as well.|
|Trevor:||Yeah, absolutely. Let’s talk about some of those things. I know in your book, you talk about some of the underlying causes of fatigue being things like anemia, thyroid problems, cortisol imbalance, blood sugar imbalance, nutrient deficiencies, chronic infections, hidden food allergies and insensitivities. I talk a lot about those with skin issues, too, because if you have those things, it can show up as skin problems, too. Do you want to talk about a few of these and how they contribute to fatigue and how they also might show up on your skin? We can talk about that, too.|
|Carri:||Yeah, absolutely. I would say that of that list, the 2 that are at the top of the list that I think anybody that has low energy or fatigue, the 2 basic things that you have to have evaluated first are to be checked for anemia and to be checked for a thyroid problem. If you haven’t had those 2 things done yet, and you have fatigue or low energy, that has to be done, either by your naturopathic doctor or a senior medical doctor, and have some basic bloodwork done. Talking about anemia, I’m going to start there. Obviously, if you don’t have enough blood in your body and enough oxygen flowing through, you’re going to feel tired, but how that can relate to the skin is just pale skin, frankly. I actually had a new patient in here just last week, my third new patient of the day, and I was looking at her, and I could tell she was just so pale. She said, “Yeah, I’ve had chronic low iron.” “Has anybody really investigated that?” “No.” “If you do have low iron or low B12 or anemia, that should really be investigated to see what is causing that.” I find a lot of traditional doctors will just supplement with the iron without really digging deeper to find out where is that really coming from?|
|Trevor:||Right, because if someone’s low in iron, which is one of the causes of anemia, then why are they deficient in iron? Is it because they have excess blood loss or is it because they have difficulty with digestion, so they’re not absorbing the iron from the foods that they’re eating? Is that the kinds of things that you would then look for with anemia?|
|Carri:||And like you said, are they not digesting it and absorbing it well? Then I kind of think about, “Is the stomach acid low? Do they have an H. Pylori infection which is a bacteria that can live in the stomach. Sometimes people are doing all the right things but they can have hidden infections in the gut, particularly SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. A lot of infections will just feed on iron and will steal it from you. Then as you were saying, poor absorption. Classically, the condition Celiac disease, which you know is an autoimmune condition of the gut, the first indication of Celiac disease on a lab test is usually low iron. Whenever I see a patient with low iron like that first thing, one of those things that pops into my head is, “Gee, I wonder if this patient could have Celiac,” and they’ve actually never been diagnosed properly.|
|Trevor:||Why Celiac? Explain why Celiac is something that you think of.|
|Carri:||Okay, sure. Celiac is an autoimmune condition, so that means your own immune system is attacking your body. Specifically with Celiac, it’s attacking the lining of the small intestine. Our small intestine, if we look at that under the microscope, it has these long fibers in the small intestine. It kind of looks like shag carpet, and these are the vilii. At the tip of each of these carpet fibers, as we are using in our analogy, that’s where you absorb your broccoli. That’s where you absorb your iron. That’s where you absorb your cheese or whatever. What happens in Celiac is those fibers are blunted and instead of having shag carpet, it looks like Berber carpet. Your ability to absorb the nutrients in the foods that you eat, the nutrients in the supplements that you take, your ability to absorb is dramatically reduced. That’s where we start seeing on bloodwork these different signs of potential Celiac disease, the first one being low iron, because it’s just not getting through. That part of the body is damaged.|
|Trevor:||Okay. If we’re looking at anemia, if someone has pale skin and they’re wondering, “Okay, what do I ask my doctor for?” What lab tests do you recommend people ask for or what do you suggest that doctors order?|
|Carri:||If a patient is diagnosed with anemia, I think they should take that next step and just ask why. Why do you think I have anemia? Not just have them take iron, but ask why. Again, so going over those basic things. Are you getting enough in your diet? You can easily do internet searches for how much iron is in a chicken breast about the size of your palm, and how much iron is in a cup of spinach, and go through your day and estimate how much iron you’re getting in your diet, if you’re eating enough or not. Then testing for H. Pylori. That can be blood tests, which is not the greatest way to test for H. Pylori. There’s a breath test and there’s a stool antigen test, also for H. Pylori. The stool antigen test is actually the most accurate.|
|Screening for Celiac disease. The best lab to screen for Celiac disease, frankly, is Cyrex Labs. They’re array #3. If your doctor has the ability to run tests through that lab, that would really be your best bet. Then looking for other hidden underlying infections. We talk about SIBO. That’s a breath test, either a lactulose breath test or a glucose breath test. Then also things like yeast overgrowth can create iron deficiencies. Sometimes we can see that on a stool test. Sometimes we can see that on an organic acids test. The difficulty is there’s not just one test to screen for all of these things.|
|Trevor:||Yeah. In addition to getting ferritin levels tested or having a complete blood count or what’s also called a CBC and also an iron count, you will suggest these specialty labs in addition to that if people’s levels are, if they have low iron?|
|Carri:||Yeah. These are the things that go through my head. It really depends on the patient in front of me, if I think we need to go down this lane or this lane or this lane. These are all the possibilities. For the viewers out there and for the listeners to kind of think about how, if they have fatigue, if they have low iron or a history of anemia, figure out why.|
|Trevor:||Right, right. Okay. Good. You mentioned Cyrex Labs. I like Cyrex Labs, and it’s spelled C-Y-R-E-X in case people want to check their website out or learn more about them. I don’t have any affiliation with them, so i don’t think that’s an issue. You mentioned that anemia and thyroid problems are the 2 things that people want to check out first if they have fatigue. Why is that?|
|Carri:||Those are very common causes of fatigue, and they’re very treatable, to be quite honest. The difficulty I find within my private practice is usually patients come in and they’ve already had those tests done, and their doctor said, “Well, everything’s normal. Maybe you just need a vacation, or maybe you’re stressed, you’re starting to burn out. Maybe you need to take 3 months off of work, or maybe we should start you on antidepressants.” It’s all in your head, right? Usually when patients come to see me in my private practice at Functional Medicine Ontario, they’ve already taken that step, and they’re like, “Okay, my doctor says everything is normal, but yet I have all of these different symptoms. What is going on?” They know there is something wrong inside and they really want to get to the root cause of it.|
|Trevor:||Okay. Let’s talk about thyroid problems a little bit because what you’re saying is, and I see this a lot in my practice too, is doctors will run a TSH on blood work a thyroid stimulating hormone to rule out thyroid problems, and if it’s within the normal range, they’ll say, “You don’t have a thyroid problem.” You and I know it’s a little bit different when people come see us. Will you explain what you would look at differently?|
|Carri:||First to start with, a screening test is just that. It just screens for gross, big changes. Just like you have a window screen on your window. It keeps out the big bugs, but the small bugs can still get through. The screening test usually is the first and only place that doctors test for a thyroid problem. You said it, that’s the TSH test. One of the other issues with the TSH test is the range of normal is pretty wide and in functional medicine, we tightened up that range to say, “Okay, here’s ‘normal’, but really here is ideal.” A lot of functional medicine doctors have seen in their own patients that their own patients feel best when their TSH usually is pretty low. There’s a couple of problems there with the TSH test, that a lot of times if your numbers are in the normal range, you’re just told, “It’s normal.”|
|The other thing is we talked about just like a window screen that keeps the big bugs out but we can still see the small bugs coming through. The TSH only tells us one part of the whole cascade of thyroid hormone function in the body. Actually it’s telling us how your pituitary is talking to your thyroid. Your pituitary in your brain, it uses the hormone TSH to talk to your thyroid, and then your thyroid from there makes T4, and then in your body T4 gets made into T3. T3 is actually the most active of all the thyroid hormones, so we want to look at the whole cascade of how is everybody talking to each other. We want to test at least those 3 things, TSH, free T4, free T3. We can take it a bit further and test a reverse T3. Reverse T3 tells us about inactive thyroid hormones, and that usually when those levels are high, that usually signals a gut, something is going wrong deeper in the gut is really the cause. Then if we want to take it one step further to the screen for Hashimoto’s, at the earliest stages of Hashimoto’s, that would be a TPO antibody test.|
|Yeah. As a basic screening, we want to do at least those 3, the pituitary talking to the thyroid. That’s TSH. Then in the body, T4 gets made into T3, which is a free T3 test. I use this analogy with patients. Okay, you work in a corporate position. Is the boss talking to the manager, and then the manager is talking to the employees? How is that chain of communication really working? Is somebody sleeping on the job? If we look at that whole cascade of how the thyroid actually works in the body, we can have a better idea of is there really a thyroid problem there that is developing, but is not manifested as full-blown hypothyroidism yet?|
|Trevor:||I think that’s so important because catching thyroid problems early is so much easier to treat than waiting until the TSH is way off. I think it’s great that you do that as well as looking at the free T3, free T4, looking at those early signs, looking at TSH in that more optimal range. I think it’s so important. Just to go back to skin, with thyroid problems, one of the first things that people notice when they have low thyroid function, is dry skin. Or if they have high thyroid function, they might get sweaty and their skin is really oily. They might even have more acne. These can be signs of the thyroid imbalance and then with fatigue, you tend to have low thyroid function, right?|
|Carri:||Right, right. Then the other thing that I want to bring up in relation, it’s in relation with the skin, is that a lot of patients who have a thyroid that’s getting weaker, they’ll start losing the outer third of their eyebrows. Women will notice this more than men, because we’re really into eyebrows here. Yeah. You’ll start losing the outer third of your eyebrows. They’ll just start to vanish. Then the other thing is, a lot of women come in and their hair is just getting thinner and thinner, and they can start seeing their scalp more. That could be thyroid. That could be also anemia-related, not enough iron in the body.|
|Trevor:||Mm-hmm (affirmative). Absolutely. Okay. Let’s talk about nutrient deficiencies and fatigue. What are some of the big ones that you see? We talked about iron and people that are low in that will have anemia. That’s a nutritional deficiency, but what about other nutrients?|
|Carri:||Mm-hmm (affirmative). Before I jump into that, I just want to caution your viewers and your listeners that just because you have fatigue doesn’t automatically mean that you need iron, because not everybody actually needs iron and there’s many different vitamins and nutrients out there that are totally safe to take, but iron is not necessarily one of those. If you don’t actually need iron, you should not be taking extra iron because it can build up in the body. I’ve actually seen that with patients that are like, “Yeah, I’ve been tired so I’ve been taking iron and I don’t feel any different.” I’m like, “You need to stop taking iron. You don’t need any more iron.”|
|One of the most common deficiencies I see is Vitamin D. I’m here in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, and we have not much sun during the year. July and August are our best months to really get Vitamin D from the sun, from having good skin exposure to the sun. The other thing that I see here in Ontario is not a lot of doctors actually test for Vitamin D because it’s not covered under the government, socialized medicine plan. I look over their bloodwork, and I’ll say, “Okay, what has been tested? What do their numbers look like? Are they okay, are they ideal? Then what is missing?” Usually a vitamin D test is missing. Vitamin D is the sunshine vitamin. I like to explain to patients that if your Vitamin D levels are low, your body is tricked into thinking you’re in hibernation mode. You know how you feel typically during the winter, like you’re just more slow. You’re more sluggish. You just want to cuddle up on the couch and hibernate. You also tend to gain about 5 pounds, just comes on and you’re like, “Where did that come from?” Then during the summer, the opposite happens. You have the sun and you naturally feel more alive, more energy, and I think a lot of that really has to do with the changes in vitamin D. That’s one that across the board I’ll look for is vitamin D deficiency.|
|Trevor:||Great. Of course, vitamin D is so important for the skin as well. Really important. I think it’s really interesting that when you address these issues, like anemia or thyroid problems or nutritional deficiencies, it’s going to help you in so many ways. It’s going to help you feel more energetic. You’re going to feel better overall. Your skin will look cleaner, clearer, glowing. The body is connected. It’s not just looking at one organ or one symptom. When you address these things that really impact the body in so many different ways. I’m glad we’re talking about this. With nutritional deficiencies, the 2 that you mentioned, iron and vitamin D, you can pretty much test on bloodwork for those, but what about other nutritional deficiencies? Which other ones do you test in bloodwork and if you can’t test them in bloodwork, how do you determine what those other nutritional deficiencies might be?|
|Carri:||That’s a pretty big question there. Yeah. It’s complicated. The other nutrients that I look for in just basic bloodwork, I’ll look for B12. That’s just a B12 blood test. I’ll look for signs of a B6 deficiency. Another one I’ll look for on just basic bloodwork, another liver enzyme called ALP, alkaline phosphotase and if that is also on the low end of normal, that leaves me to think that there’s probably a zinc deficiency going on because it takes zinc in order to make that enzyme alkaline phosphotase.|
|Other than that, there’s not many others that we can really test very easily without getting into more advanced testing. There are other types of blood tests out there by specialty labs where they will do intracellular tests so they’ll look inside of the red blood cells or the white blood cells. I say like it’s an egg and they crack them open and they see how much of the nutrients are actually inside of the cells, because that’s really where all of the work gets done. There’s different specialty labs that will do tests like that. Of course vitamin D. That is tested in the blood very easily. Then sometimes there’s a test called an organic acids test which is a simple, actually very simple urine test. We can see different metabolites in the urine and that can point us in the direction of “This person probably needs more B2 or B6 or we don’t see very much vitamin C in the urine, so that means they’re probably deficient in the blood.” Again, it would be great if there was just one test that will test for everything, but it’s not that easy in the real world.|
|Trevor:||Right. I know. I have so many patients that say, “Well, can’t we just, when you’re ordering all my bloodwork, can’t you just throw in all the nutrients and tell me what my magnesium and my zinc and my this or that, can’t you just run those?” I have to explain to them that it’s not that easy. With a lot of the nutrients, it’s not that easy to test for those. The specialty labs, as far as the specialty labs, are there ones that you particularly like to use.|
|Carri:||Yeah, there are. For the organic acids test, I like to use the one by Great Plains Lab, and then Doctor’s Data also has some different tests available to test intracellular, red blood cell levels for fatty acids and different minerals and whatnot. A great test, it really tells us a lot is the one by Spectracell. There’s just a blood test, tells us what’s inside the cells, tests lots of different minerals, vitamins, amino acids. It’s excellent, except as a naturopathic doctor in Ontario, I’m not allowed to run that test. Yeah. It’s like bleh.|
|Carri:||-available out there.|
|Trevor:||Yeah, and I don’t want people listening, watching, to get overwhelmed by having to order all these different tests. If you’re working with a naturopathic physician or functional medicine doctor that’s well-trained, they should be able to help guide you into figuring out, pinpointing what is your most likely to be your underlying cause, or narrow it down to 2 or 3 and then start with those tests to figure that out. You don’t have to do all of those, right? You can just start with 1 or 2 hopefully.|
|Carri:||Yeah, you bring up a really great point. Usually with my patient, I have a conversation as to, “Okay, here’s what I think is going on. I’m pretty confident this is what’s going on. Now. We can run this test to verify that, or we can start treatment and see how you respond to treatment. If you respond good to treatment, well that pretty much verifies that my thought was right. Even something simple like a B6 deficiency. If I see certain symptoms going on, I’ll say, “You know what? I think there’s a B6 deficiency going on. Let’s try a bottle of B6 for 30 days and see how you do.” A lot of patients would just be like, “Great. I like that idea.” Some patients will say, “I want to see it on a blood test,” and I’ll say, “Okay, well, here are our options.” There’s always that trying to figure out between you and the patient, working as a team to figure out the best strategy.|
|Trevor:||Mm-hmm (affirmative). Okay. In your book you talk about vitamin R. What is that?|
|Carri:||Vitamin R is a fun vitamin that I like to talk about. Vitamin R stands for Rest, Relaxation and Recreation. I would say as a deficiency, pretty much all of us are deficient in vitamin R. I like to tell people that it’s okay to have some fun in your life, to schedule down time for yourself. So many people, they’re so scheduled with their work, their family, the kids, and they forget to schedule time for themselves to say, it’s okay to take a vacation. It’s okay to take one day off and just shut off all of your electronics and just have some peace and quiet for yourself. It’s okay to go back to those hobbies that you “don’t have time for.” Go back to them. Put yourself in a different mindset to go and have some fun.|
|Trevor:||Yeah. Why is that so important? If people don’t get that vitamin R, that rest and relaxation, what happens? How does that lead to fatigue?|
|Carri:||In a very basic sense, the more and more stress that we have, and the more and more stress we’re exposed to, there has to be an outlet for that stress, and there’s so much research, as you know, Trevor. It’s so much research on the negative effects of stress. These are easy things that can be done at home without consulting with a professional. Just go for a walk, enjoy your time outside, engage all of your senses, be present. Think about what smells do I smell? Do I smell the grass? Do I smell different flowers? Feel the breeze hitting your cheek, feel the sun, the warmth of the sun on your skin. Just be present, even if it’s just 5 minutes a day, to just be present and to take a few minutes and practice some gratitude, also. I talk about that in the book. Take a moment and list 3 things that you’re grateful for in that moment or for that day.|
|These little things can really start adding up in profound ways. I think just on a basic level, there has to be an outlet for stress so that we can start reversing those negative effects. That’s where vitamin R comes in.|
|Trevor:||Great. Do you think that, looking back at your life, do you think if you’d scheduled a little bit more of that time when you went back to school and you were really stressed and over-scheduled, do you think that that would have helped prevent you from having the issues with fatigue that you experienced?|
|Carri:||To be quite honest, no. There will be things that come into our lives that are so overwhelming that we just have to, your body almost goes into survival mode. The big things, going through separation and divorce, the illness or death of a loved one, me going back to school. It was so stressful, and not to say that that in any sense relates to the other 2 as far as death or illness of a loved one, or going through separation and divorce, but there will be times where you’re just purely in survival mode, and you get through it. After that, practicing that vitamin R, getting more rest, relaxation and recreation to help get you back in balance, I think that’s key.|
|Trevor:||Okay. You think that really helping restore balance, when somebody is there, it’s important to help someone recover and also to help people probably to help prevent it to a certain extent but it’s not the only thing that’s going to help keep people from getting burned out and getting tired.|
|Carri:||Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That’s just 1 thing of many that I talk about in the book, yeah. You’re right.|
|Trevor:||Excellent. Great. Tell us some more about how people can learn more about you, about your upcoming book, about you have your show. Tell people about those things.|
|Carri:||Oh, thank you. I guess the best way for people to reach out to me would be through my website at drcarri.com. It’s my home base, so that’s where your viewers and listeners can see me interviewing you on my podcast called The Functional Medicine Radio Show, and of course that’s where I have my blog, all my past interviews, and that’s where you can get a copy of my book, “Reclaim Your Energy and Feel Normal Again.” You mentioned my upcoming book. My upcoming book is going to be all about digestive health. Yeah. Go ahead and visit drcarri.com.|
|Trevor:||Great. We’ll have those links up on my website as well, so people that are driving or busy right now can just go visit my website to find all that information. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Carri, for all your information today. It’s really been valuable, all really pulling in together the connection between fatigue and the skin and these root causes that can lead to both skin and energy issues, along with other health problems. If we address the root cause, like for some of the things that we talked about today, really can have a more vibrant, healthy life, right?|
|Carri:||Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me on today. I really appreciate it.|
|Trevor:||I hope you enjoyed this interview today with Dr. Carri. To learn more about Dr. Carri, you can visit my website, thespadoctor.com. Go to the podcast page with her interview, and you’ll find all the information and links there. Also, I invite you to join the Spa Doctor community on my website, or subscribe to the podcast on iTunes so you don’t miss any of our upcoming shows. If you haven’t done so already, I highly recommend you get your own customized skin profile at theskinquiz.com. It’s free based upon the answers, just a few questions. You’ll get great tips for glowing skin and vibrant health. Just go to theskinquiz.com and in just a few minutes, you’ll have your own customized skin report. Also, don’t miss out on the latest tips for getting glowing skin from inside and out. Be sure to follow me on Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter and Instagram and join the conversation. Thank you and I’ll see you next time.|